Read the following poem and share your reflections about it.
An African Thunderstorm
From the west
Clouds come hurrying with the wind
Turning sharply
Here and there
Like a plague of locusts
Whirling,
Tossing up things on its tail
Like a madman chasing nothing.
Pregnant clouds
Ride stately on its back,
Gathering to perch on hills
Like sinister dark wings;
The wind whistles by
And trees bend to let it pass.
In the village
Screams of delighted children,
Toss and turn
In the din of the whirling wind,
Women,
Babies clinging on their backs
Dart about
In and out
Madly;
The wind whistles by
Whilst trees bend to let it pass.
Clothes wave like tattered flags
Flying off
To expose dangling breasts
As jagged blinding flashes
Rumble, tremble and crack
Amidst the smell of fired smoke
And the pelting march of the storm.
David Rubadiri
- What is the poem about?
- Comment on the tone, mood and atmosphere in the poem
- Describe the rhythm in the poem.
Note:This is not a one time activity. We shall discuss question 1 until I am satisfied with your responses. Your task will be to comment on and make the responses of your colleagues better.-Critique, improve and contribute.
Happy Learning!
The reading is really practical and makes the poem to be lively.
ReplyDeleteof course what do other members say
DeleteThis practical reading is interesting and good since it makes me lively while reading a poem.
ReplyDeleteThis poem is interesting to read but needs one to be more practical, calm, zealous to internalize.
ReplyDeletelet us happily share academics, come on.
ReplyDeletedo you know what it is about?
Deletewow I really see the picture of wind while practically reading it's totally new experience to learn online
ReplyDeleteThe reading is good.
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ReplyDeleteStuart what does this poem call for?
DeleteOk, now let us answer question one!
ReplyDeleteThe question simply calls for the subject matter in the poem with ample illustrations or explanations .not so?
ReplyDeleteyaa!!!
DeleteGuys!! does this poem hold a deeper meaning or it's just about 'african thunderstorm' if so what's so special about it? is there no storm in other continents? help me out
ReplyDeletePlease don't think so deep about this poem, take as plain as you see it or else you ought to misinterpret. Not so members?????
DeleteThe subject matter is the rash situation when the heavy rain is about.
ReplyDeleteThis poem needs you to be practical in order to get meaning well.
ReplyDeleteAccording to me the poem is about African storm which spontaneously do come with strong wind that even forces trees to bend to let it pass. In the poem the speaker appreciates the hollowness of the wind which keeps on turning over peoples' property .The storm is also said to consist of blinding flashes(lightening)and thunder. The speaker therefore is trying to vividly bring out the thickness/coarseness and the strength with which African storm do come, the rushy kind of atmosphere it creates among others! What do you have to say?
ReplyDeleteLuyinja, remember that poets choose their words very carefully in order to describe a scene or share an experience. Is the wind really 'hollow?'
DeleteAre the words 'thickness and coarseness' appropriate in the description of the strength of the wind?
Is it necessary to dig deep for the deeper meaning?
ReplyDeleteIts all about the invasion of the white man in Africa who come with all their influence from the west(pregnant clouds) , the Africans show them hospitality (trees bend for them to pass, they bring immorality (dangling breast) etc
ReplyDeleteWhere did this idea come from?
DeleteI do conquer with you. Basing on the fact that most African writes write about the rain which beat them, Rubadiri could have been a victim.
DeleteBrilliant idea. Can we team up and form a group we discuss about it?
DeleteBut guys this poem is really for you to understand the storm in relationships.so read deeper.
ReplyDeleteThis poem is about a strong wind at the on start of rain in the first stanza. Lubadiri describes this wind as vigorous and destructive but appreciated by nature i.e plants and people,the poem ends with falling of rain. '[Academicians internalize more.]
ReplyDeleteDeus, the first part of your statement is ok, not the second. Re read the poem...re think the experience the poem presents
DeleteLuyinja, can't you summarize that into a simple paragraph? I think it works, but it's good.
ReplyDeleteWell and good Godson but then these people of he white man are taking me far!
DeleteNot only too far but misguiding as well!
DeleteMadam, why has the idea of the coming of the western power been rejected yet u said that we have got to critically analyze the poem?
DeleteHey you people! why go deeper so much like that? What about the white man? Can you substantiate in close reference to the poem?
ReplyDeleteI agree with you totally! is there any clue to what is NOT THERE?
DeleteOk to me, this poem shows how the African weather is strong and deadly. According to the second line we see how the clouds come.
ReplyDeleteA good attempt Peace. Say more.....
DeleteAccording to the title The African Thunderstorm, the poem is about the storm, accompanied by thunder and eventually resulting into a heavy downpour, basing on the poet's experience in Africa
DeleteWell done people! Remember I said that the start of any success in poetry is in the reading.....Watch the words. What kind of words does the poet use? What is the meaning hidden behind the words?
ReplyDeleteThe first steps to poetry is to get the obvious meaning and to explore subject matter, paraphrase the whole poem from beginning to end -but first, let us start with the title.
Use your experiences of a storm in your part of the country and share what things/ ideas/ thoughts come in your mind when you read the title?
Right Madam I think before we dig deeper in the subject matter ,I would like to thank you for driving us away from the way to confusion and I would request that you emphasize on more on getting "OBVIOUS MEANING "while reading poetry to my comrades!!!! Thank you.
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DeleteThe title African Thunderstorm sets a blaze of experience regards African rain storms which are characterized with lightening flashes, maddening thunder, strong wind and a darkening weather thus making the whole environment appear dark. In this poem therefore Rubadiri describes similar features of the storm as carrying pregnant clouds, whirling or speedy wind, blinding flashes of lightening and the rumbling of the thunder storm. CAN THAT BE MEMBERS?
ReplyDeleteThe poem is about the asudden storm as being experienced in africa
ReplyDeleteMukalazi,one time in class,students used the African thunderstom as a poem of appreciation,really does it qualify?,help me understand please.
Deleteow, appreciating nature or? because this is all about nature and therefore man has no control over it
DeleteLuyinja i agree with you in that way, its a good approach
ReplyDeleteI think the poem is about the coming of the western power with their effects to the native settlers of Africa.
ReplyDeleteIt's not vividly brought out here Beatrice
DeleteOh Sister Beatrice that is what we refuted before with our Lecturer, where have you got that idea of western influence? Don't you think your over analyzing the poem? Think about it! Or else read the above comments by Madam Okullo.Thank you.
DeleteI thought this poem can be explained in both perspectives,as to you c'd it be wrong if u met a script with search an explanation?,if so ,justify.
DeleteThe poem deals with the sudden coming of the storm and it's effect on the people, the plants and generally the environment. We know that there is going to be a heavy downpour b'se the clouds are described as ''pregnant''. We also see that the wind is strong that the trees bend to let it pass.
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Deletea very good start Ivan! Paraphrase the poem to the end. that is the subject matter!
Thank you Bro. Edrine but then is that enough to satisfy about the nature of African rain storms? If not then what else is to do with African rain storms? Thank you.
ReplyDeleteflesh it more Dude!!
Deleteow, thank you S Luyinja, according to the second line of the stanza, the persona describes the way clouds appear as 'hurrying with the wind' and the following lines describe how deadly or dangerous this wind speed is.
DeleteIvan, you can heip me flesh it abit
DeleteYes, Ivo, we know the kind of atmosphere created whenever a storm is threatening to come;rush,hush,and so actions do happen rapidly through people collecting their property away from destruction by the storm, the wind itself quickens actions observed through clothes flying off like tattered flags exposing the dangling breasts of women. What do you have to say?
DeleteK it's a storm which is severe we see this in a vivid imagery e.g such as ''trees bend to let it pass'',''wind whistling'' and also it's effect on the people e.g women,babies clinging on their backs dart in and out madly, clothes wave like tattered flag all this show the strength of the wind and also allude to the heavy downpour with examples such as heavy clouds.
Deletei have loved that Stuart, now what do you have to say about the pregnant cloud in stanza two?
DeleteStuart what i clearly see is the mother who had left her millet or sorghum to dry starts darting in and out in a bid to remove the sorghum while the baby on the back fastening it's grip at the coming of the ''African thunderstorm'' JUST IMAGINE THE SCENE!!!
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ReplyDeleteC'd I be right if I said that the poem is about wind in Africa since wind is talked about throughout all the stanzas?
ReplyDeleteJoy i think you can only be right if you add more flesh to build up your argument because i think you have to also talk about the wind, whats wrong with the wind in africa, and secondly does mentioning it in the whole poem qualifies it to be the subject matter?
DeleteI think so but then focus much on the title, is it relevant to the subject matter? Is wind addressed in the title why don't you directly y hint on the point and call it a storm of rain composed of wind? Just a suggestion!
DeleteEdrine wind is an idea that keeps recurring in the poem as the poet remarks in stanza 1;''Clouds come hurrying with the wind'',also in stanza 2;''The wind whistles by
DeleteAnd trees bend to let it pass.''
'' In the din of the whirling wind''
This to me brings out the idea of wind as the subject matter.
Alright Joy, as Stuart has said, i think you need to be direct to the point
Deleteyes but i think we should not leave out it's intensity of wind because it's strong and leaving it at that does not clearly bring out what the poet is trying to stress
DeleteAnother good attempt everyone. Now I would like you to work in groups of three and provide me with the answer to question one in full. Good luck!
Deleteso can we consider the subject matter done(about African rainstorm) an not the white Man's rule in Africa
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that its about African rainstorm
DeleteI agree but then somewhere somehow the whites part is also worthy talking about b'se i've been googling and found some site supporting the view!!
DeleteIvan you should know that those are also ideas brought up by students trying to examine the subject matter of the poem so we cannot consider them as gospel truth.
DeleteWhat makes white man's rule wrong?
ReplyDeleteEmma, basing on the way of approaching poetry reading, African Thunderstorm does not give you The White Man's rule as the first incite ok?So we take the external meaning of the poem before going deeper in assessing the hidden meaning of the poem or else we may end up mis interpreting the writer's message! I refer to Ms. Okullo's comments above.
DeleteThank you Luyinja, that's what I wanted to know and distinguish confusion from truth.
DeleteSo I think let's wait to hear from the "Big voice" (Madam) and get away forward! Not so?
ReplyDeleteI think it's better we dont want to leave any stone unturned!!!
DeleteYes dia!
DeleteEmmanuel, its right that some poems carry two meanings i.e the surface and the internal meaning however its not a must that every poem has to have that. Alright lets forward this to the 'Big voice' to guide us
DeleteThank you Mukalazi, but which is which, what should I consider for the subject matter?
DeleteShould I go ahead to describe the whole poem when analyzing the subject matter?
ReplyDeleteYou may not necessarily need to describe the whole poem, however you need to first understand it whole before you answer the subject matter
DeleteOk! I have got it. Thank you Edrine.
DeleteI think that this poem is trying to show how tragedy happen in African societies.
ReplyDeleteYes, but can you go ahead and prove your stand, Beatrice.
DeleteRight from the tittle ''AFRICAN THUNDERSTORM'' the poet describes it in respect to Africa, why?
ReplyDeleteEmma, have you forgotten that Rubadiri is an African and so has speak his experience in Africa? Think about it!!!
DeleteEmmanuel it's the same thing i was pondering on but logically the poet ''Rubadiri" is an african,may be he has been around the world and probably has never faced such thunderstorms as in Africa... That's what i can think of anyone with another view??
DeleteI think that's nature.
ReplyDeleteOnce there is a change in nature, you can not avoid such, so the poet must have experienced thunderstorm in Africa since, he is African.
So you are coming back home now..
DeleteSib Joy, you have also experienced it, ergo, use that experience to drive out the subject matter. You have brought a smile on my face, anyway.
DeleteFrom the Title 'The African Thunderstorm' we are introduced the case study as Africa, to me, immediately i become anxious of what the poet is going to talk about African thunderstorm. so i just know from the surface meaning that this poem might be all about rain, storm, thunder, lightening, hailstorm e.t.c which makeup the thunderstorm.
ReplyDeleteKnow Wat Edrine, YO SUCH A BRIGHT BOY!Keep it up that's exactly what I think!!!!!
DeleteWhenever it's about to rain always the weather changes, from the tittle, we get to know that it won't rain but pour.
ReplyDeleteAnd in the first stanza, we see how this storm begins and gain momentum. And it is also what happens in the second stanza. In the third and forth, we see the intensity of this storm as well as its effects. Innit members?
After reading this poem, we see how every thing changes due to the clouds coming with winds, whirling around, trees even bend to it pass, children screaming on tap of their voices, women clinging with their babies on the bark, clothes waving like tattered flags ,and this shows how it is affecting and changing the situation with signs of the clouds.
ReplyDeletehow are we going to divide ourselves?
ReplyDeleteLet the group leader ' Vobeck' help us in the divisions
DeleteThen another?.
DeleteSimpe Ivan you, me and Peace have already formed one group not so?
ReplyDeleteYaa!! So how are we to do it? come up with possible answers and we'll flesh up if necessary?
Deleteok, lets do it that way
DeleteDo you have a group?
DeleteBut luyinja why peace.
ReplyDeletePeace what do you mean
DeleteEdrine, why voby you can also make one dear.
ReplyDeleteBeatrice ok i pair with you then whom should we add as the third one
Deletethat's good brothers and sisters in the discipline of literature and our mother in knowledge I now get the meaning
ReplyDeleteI believe let's gather ideas and then in groups of three we come up with our ideas
ReplyDeleteForm yours too
DeleteLet's team up please.
DeleteThis poem explores the reader through an African thunderstorm right from its origin to its impacts on both man and nature. The first stanza introduces us to the origin of the storm, together with some of the means at which it comes. It originates from the west and comes turning sharply, tossing everything on its tail like a mad man chasing nothing.
DeleteThe second stanza then explores us through Rubadiri's vivid usage of personification in which he calls the clouds pregnant and goes on to give them monster qualities of being sinister. He then exaggerates his poem by giving the trees the abilities to think and find it necessary to bend to let the wind pass.
In the third stanza, he takes us through the effects of the wind on both humans and nature. The wind induces screams of delight in the children as the babies on the other side cling to women's backs. On nature still, the trees band to let the wind pass implying both humans and nature are affected by the storm.
This wind is so strong in the forth stanza that clothes are flown off human bodies to expose dangling breasts and the cacophony in the ''rumble, tremble'' gives the poem the liveliness of the storm.
In conclusion, the poem, ''An African Thunderstorm'', is a vivid portrayal of a violent storm in Africa which most of us Africans have lived to see.
i like this
Deleteok,j have also the class
ReplyDeleteNow which group am I
ReplyDeleteAm with you bro.
DeleteSo Luyinja and ivan .what is the subject matter according to you.
ReplyDeletecritically when you look at this poem, the subject is the great impact that the storm creates. Right from its advent from the West, the persona expresses his fear by comparing it to a "plague of locusts", an image evoking destruction. This becomes significant when its impact is felt by the women, who are up and down to save their property from the threatening rain. It also affects the trees when they bend to let it pass. However, it also causes happiness to the children who scream delightedly.
ReplyDeleteMr Tagondha how do you conclude this, what do we get out of that?
DeleteJoy whom have you got as the third none
ReplyDeleteEddy,in whose group sh'd I be pliz?
DeleteWe already initiated you in our group, with Gondha
DeleteNamukaya Joy and Edrine Mukalazi, do you mind if you joined me to see the way forward for this poem?
ReplyDeleteI love that, so Beatrice, Edrine and Emmanuel Tagondha are in one group, let the discussion begin.
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Deleteas you are all quiet what's new
ReplyDeleteplease eddy, am waiting for your reactions
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ReplyDeletewhich group am I?
ReplyDeleteteam up with Pius and Mr Gadibengale
Deletethe poem is about the effect of nature as seen through the
ReplyDeleteAfrican thunderstorm where the writer is showing the effect of rain.
The Poet addresses the subject of thunderstorm in Africa .He closely examines the onset, features of storm such as pregnant clouds, whistling wind, whirling wind, to show it's strength,and also prepare the reader for the next ''big'' thing-downpour,it's effect has been brought out clearly by innocent children screaming, and women who dart in and out madly in a bid to remove 'things' from the raging winds and babies clinging on their backs to fasten the grip. Guys omissions and additions??
ReplyDeletewhich group am I members?
ReplyDeleteIn mine.
DeleteParaphrase the poem------Describe what you see happening in the poem in your own words- short, clear to the point
DeleteAdding to Tagondha's & Ivan's explanations, I see how human beings react to such situations, as well as the various objects like trees.
ReplyDeleteIvan I think these children are just delighted, no?
Trust me the children are innocent and don't know the storm's impact, unlike 'their' mothers who hurry to clear the compounds whenever they see such changes in weather conditions!!
DeleteYes they don't know but they are just happy, ignorance is bliss
DeleteI would say that!!!
DeleteIt is true they are innocent but the fact that they are also affected by the storm must not be underrated to their innocence. This is so because the difference in understanding the implications of the coming rain is a very important factor to consider. To the children, it is going to be fun, whereas the women see a lot of unrest that is likely to occur. Therefore Mr. Ivan, the children are presented at a different point of view and must not be considered useless when tracing the subject of the poem.
DeleteSo according to me, the subject matter is about the storm that seems to be bring tragedy situation to Africa and shows nature of the weather in African societies . This is seen in first stanza of the poem , he shows this through the coming the clouds with hurrying wind, pregnant clouds and see how things are changing in this short period .That is children screaming delight full , women clinging with their babies on the bark, even trees bend to it have it 's way. Ivan and Luyinja.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean by 'hurrying winds'? Which things are changing? Describe the wind and what it does. Choose your words carefully!
Deletewhen critically analyzed I think the writer wanted to portray to us the suffering undergone by people especially in the season of rain in particular thunderstorm as seen through the suffering children in the villages.
ReplyDeletebut are they really suffering? Mr Godson?
DeleteTackle the poem as a whole- do not dissect it. When you do so, you will find yourself giving your own and not the poet's idea
DeleteIvan they are suffering because the mothers may ignore them in the process.
DeleteGodson I don't see any suffering in it.
DeleteThat ''may'' shows you are not sure not so? can a mother leave the child under such circumstances? i think mo more so when we some clinging on the ''backs'' of the mothers
DeleteAs you try to answer question 1 remember that poetry thrives on conciseness and preciseness. Let your answer be short straight and to the point.
ReplyDeleteIvan, believe me children are also affected because their mothers may ignore them
ReplyDeleteAs earlier on discussed by other members,i strongly agree that the poem is about a strong wind in Africa.
ReplyDeletelook at stanza1,the poet describes the aggressive movement of the wind;
''like a madman chasing nothing''
meaning that the wind is so strong and moves at a high speed.
secondly,the poet remarks of wind whistling and making trees bend in stanza 2;
''...wind whistles...trees bend to let it pass.''
Here I think the wind is so strong and aggressive hence the poem is about the strong wind.
The subject matter is about the coming of a thunderstorm. The title 'An African thunderstorm' gives us a general insight of what we are to find in the poem and the background as African. Its also rural as to the vivid description of the children as tattered. In stanza two, the clouds are personified to be heavy with rain that is threatening to fall. In stanza three the writer take us to a rural setting to show us in a vivid description the chaos of mothers to enter things into the house and the joy children feel at the anticipation of rain. The poem is a critical examination of the atmosphere in the rural settings in Africa at the oncoming of a thunderstorm.
ReplyDeletePuis its not the children that are tattered but clothes.
Deleteok so to me also I think the poem tells us about the nature of storms experienced in Africa, the whirling wind that is too strong to bend trees to let it pass, that also tosses things up and down where the persona employs personification to show that the clouds are heavy with rain in stanza two the first line,
ReplyDelete"Pregnant clouds..." with the effects these storms bring like the confusion it causes women dashing up and down to make sure there children are safe but with them, clothes fly off.
The poem is about the destructive storm in an African village during the rainy season and if you go deeper, its about colonialism and it's effects
ReplyDeletefirst dwell on the first interpretation
DeleteI think we are on the same page. but I think we are in a two manned group with vobeck kizito
ReplyDeleteAll in all I think this poem is about the effect of nature on man
ReplyDeleteHow and where is it shown?
DeleteGROUP ONE (LUYINJA,PEACE AND NAMBAFU)
ReplyDeleteAfrican thunderstorm is an African poem about the the nature of African rain storm. In the poem the speaker is describing the rushy atmosphere caused by the rain for example the clouds come hurrying with the wind from the West and the keep turning over peoples' property from one place to the other. The speaker has likened it to a plague of locusts which are destructive in nature and so is the storm. In the second stanza the speaker also has personified the pregnant clouds to helps us understand the large mounts of rain they carry. the strong wind forces trees to bend down in order to let pass. The storm also makes children in villages to shout and chant innocently with delight though their voices are swallowed up by the strong whistling of the wind. The speaker further describes women who swash from one direction to another with their babies on top of their backs .The strength of the wind exposes the the swinging breasts of the women in their attempt to collect their property from the threatening storm. The storm comes with a blinding flash light which makes them (women) tremble over the pelting march of the storm.
Thunder and rain are different so I w'dn't love u to use African rain storm since it's just strong wind group 1.
Deletei could buy that Beatrice
DeleteI am also studying this poem, but i am facing some difficulties with the last two lines of the poem. Do u think u can help?
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Deletedon't go to colonialism again twist and then, how is the storm destructive because I don't see it reflected anywhere
ReplyDeletePius there is some clue but not clearly brought out
DeleteNow Bro. Pius the simile of the plague of locusts helps us to know that they are destructive in nature. Equally this wind being described in the first stanza behaves the same
Deletewhich kind of nature Godson
ReplyDeleteIt's not a matter of arguing bt getting a solution, what then c'd be the subject matter since we hv similar ideas pals?
ReplyDeletewe are nt agueing but to see how we can all be on the same page JOY
Deletepuis colonialism came from west and it turned up things in Africa like wind refer to the peom
ReplyDeleteSir OK that idea is correct but not vividly brought out here and so the madam advised as against it
Deleteok Ivan but that is my deeper meaning
DeleteYaa i agree with the 'deeper' meaning though.
DeletePuis l think you are right about destruction
ReplyDeletetwist stop mixing ideas ,according to me you are showing two subject matters, please explain to me what you are trying two show dear.
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ReplyDeletePeace we usually have the plain meaning and the deeper meaning that is why l have given two meaning dear
ReplyDeleteI think we should deal with the surface meaning twist
DeleteSo I think most of us are at loggerheads, so what can the tone and mood be?
ReplyDeleteThe tone is rush.
DeleteThe tone c'd be vigorous tone as heard when you read it,u tend to stress the content adjectives e.g. the wind turning ''sharply'' and ''sinister' 'as you read u emphasize those adjectives hence the vigorous tone.
DeleteThe mood can be tense.
Emma what deeper meaning do you see in the poem,
ReplyDeleteI think the subject matter is derived from your own understanding of the poem not the intention, not so.
Delete(GONDHA EMMA, NAMUKAYA JOY AND MUKALAZI EDRINE)
ReplyDeletewhen critically analyzed, the subject matter of the poem is the impact of the thunderstorm, for it creates a lot of confusion that the persona compares it to the "plague of locusts". indeed, its impact is felt by the women who are up and down to save their property from the threatening rain, even the strong wind violently blows the women's clothes, exposing dangling breasts. however, though it is seen as a disaster, to the children, happiness is evoked them as they scream delightedly, expecting the rain
But be specific with one which has more content. Twist.
ReplyDeleteI also had that deeper meaning twist but.....
ReplyDeleteokay Emma but it is clear and l agree with your answers please
ReplyDeletevobeck what complete
ReplyDeleteBut I think it's better we use the surface meaning as the big boss said. Twist.
ReplyDeleteMr. tumwesige tone is the quality of the speaking voice how rushy is it
ReplyDeleteYes Emma it's true.
ReplyDeleteMadam please guide us group one,thanks
ReplyDeletePeace what do you want to be guided on?
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OK friends now I think let's go tone and mood and with case am saying tone is a matter-of-fact.What is your say??
ReplyDeleteTone is a matter-of-fact because the speaker describes the storm from all knowing point,he is factual about the descriptions of the storm thus the use of present continuous tense.The speaker uses third person in bringing out the "screaming children" and the "darting women" to affirm the fact that he is a living witness of the event.In other wards he is a true victim of the disastrous storm.What do you have to say????
ReplyDeleteso very quiet
ReplyDeleteHey, you people y the silence?
ReplyDeleteGuys you need to get back so that we finish this poem
ReplyDelete